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> Subject: Re: WREC/CDNP/extproxy ... moving forward
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> > >what if the consumer has a legitimate need to access something that just
> > >happens to look to the virus filter like it contains a virus?
> > >what if the filter doesn't just check for viruses, but also things that
> > >look (to it) like porn?
> >
> > Those examples are problematic as they demonstrate situations where there
> > could be a valid reason for having filters on the network border.
>
> define 'network border'. :)
>
> (now try to define it in a world with ubiquitous portable/wireless devices,
> where legitimate interaction patterns no longer correlate well with
> network topology. imho, topology-based filters are a dead-end. )
Does it really have to be defined? Its seems that the issue
is "it is not the ends". It can be a device anywhere "inside".
>
> > In those cases you can argue that the consumer isn't the user sat in
> > front of her browser, but the guy that decides who can use the network
> > and what they can use it for.
>
> you could argue that. I'm not at all sure it's either socially valuable,
> or that it makes sense from an architectural point of view.
>
> however, without trying to nail down the definition of 'consumer' just
> yet, my point is that different users have different needs, and
> the filters which one might find useful, will cause harm to another.
> if you want the system to work predictably you can't have third parties
> who have no responsibility to the consumer or the content-provider
> imposing arbitrary constraints on how the system operates.
>
> Keith
Isn't there a "content services" model here where one point
is a provider that gets paid and the other is a consumer that
pays.
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