Sounds like working with the OPES group to parse out and align the protocol
definitions to
align to both group's requirements would be a plus for Webi and OPES
Michael Condry
At 11:43 PM 12/11/2001, David E. Martin wrote:
>We had a good discussion at the Webi LunchBoF Tuesday. We talked about how
>to get more involvement and where we should head. It was not an official
>Webi meeting, but an informal chance to brainstorm. Some items from the
>discussion (in random order). These were discussion topics, not decisions.
>
>1) Ned Freed and Allison Mankin chaired the OPES BoF and promised more IAB
>attention on content distribution issues. The increased focus on OPES will
>probably help Webi as well. We should try and take advantage of this by
>involving some of the interested parties from Webi.
>2) IBM is working on documenting the invalidation protocol used in WebSphere
>and is planning on releasing a draft "soon." The requirements draft has some
>concepts that are pretty specific to WCIP and would benefit from more
>datapoints.
>3) The two activities that are identified in the charter for Webi are
>invalidation and discovery. The most intellectually interesting area is
>discovery, but the group chose to work on invalidation as a first priority.
>There was a good bit of interest in discovery issues.
>4) One of the items from the OPES BoF was the need for OPES proxy "tracing."
>It is possible that a Webi discovery protocol could be used for this. Since
>OPES has a ton of work to do, we may be able to get some additional Webi
>participation for discovery.
>5) The requirements draft has substantially all the requirements, but could
>use some editing for readability and flow.
>6) There was discussion about whether the W3C might be a more appropriate
>place for the Webi/OPES/CDI work. The W3C has more dedicated resources than
>the IETF and a somewhat more focused process. In general, the feeling is
>that the W3C is more focused on schema-type issues and less on protocol
>issues.
>7) Although there might be advantages to re-chartering the Webi work, the
>current turmoil in the content networking space means that we should be stay
>with what we have. We're the only group in the space that is chartered
>right now and we don't want to mess with that!
>8) Almost any work in this space needs some involvement from Microsoft.
>We'll try to approach them with whatever channels we have.
>9) We hope that the draft from IBM, the updates to the requirements
>document, and the discussion of discovery will cause some quality discussion
>on the list.
>10) It might be a good idea to hold a regular conference call--either
>between the ADs and the chairs of OPES, Webi, and CDI or among the general
>membership of the groups.
>11) The OPES, Webi, and CDI groups have enough overlapping issues that it
>might be good to have a coordination working group like IMPP is for the
>instant messaging space.
>
>At the lunch:
>Jules Aronson, David Martin, Ian Cooper, Graham Klyne, Lee Rafalow, Stephen
>McHenry, Joseph Hui.
>
>I welcome any corrections or additions.
>
>David E. Martin
>Program Director, Internet Standards and Technology
>IBM
>One IBM Plaza
>330 N. Wabash Ave.
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Michael W. Condry
Director, Network Edge Technology
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